The floor plan takes shape

We've had many questions about the building over the years since this website began - our faq section details the main questions with our responses.

Design FAQs


Frequently Asked Questions concerning the Design


How did you arrive at the final design and what influence does it have on the "feel" of the building?

The design was one which came to me when I set out to draw a floor plan for a building which would serve as a living space for my wife and I as well as a healing space for residential workshops we do called Mindvision.

I *worked* on the design for 4 years (off and on (-;) but couldn't change it in any significant regard without detracting from its effectiveness.

When we came to the piece of land on which it is rising, the energetics (aka earth energies) clearly indicated this was a sacred site. Once again I tried to influence the design to accommodate the prevailing geographic features and orientation - again to no avail.

So, for me, the design was and is something 'predestined' if you like and not for the likes of me to change. I believe it does have good 'Feng Shui' but I would not claim that was a conscious intention. Nor could I say it was designed according to any principles other than 'what would work' with harmony and balance.

Personally I feel the octagon is one of the best shapes for containing and enriching energies as humans experience them - another personal feeling.

Everyone who visits does *feel* something - usually described as friendliness, warmth or profound peace - more, I suspect to do with the earth than the erection but I do not say that the structure is without its own contribution.


Where did you get the design?

I first saw the roof structure in a photo of the meditation hall at Findhorn. I fell immediately in love with it as it had the 2 qualities I wanted: 1 - a central light-admitting opening 2 - freedom from supporting poles, pillars or massive metal constructions


What are the main advantages of the roof?

It also offered these advantages:- - plenty of visual movement - its a challenge to keep one's focus fixed on one spot from inside - the gaze and awareness is constantly drawn inward and upward - an agreeable direction for me. - freedom from lateral thrust at the supporting rim - the walls needed no buttressing or lateral supports (although with the octagonal plan this may be a moot point). Once the rafters lock together, the structure is a unified thing and any load anywhere is immediately distributed evenly throughout the main beams and the resulting force is uniformly vertical on the supports. (Ours sits on the top of 5"X2" vertical members which have precious little bracing) - low wind resistance(?) - since the roof is not flat - it has a stepped surface (excuse my ignorance of the proper building terms - as I say, the things we do for bliss (-;) - the wind can't get a purchase on it and I think it is more resistant to uplift than a planar roof of the same surface area. (Although I have nothing other than my own 'hunch' to go on there).


Where else has this roof been used?

The structure is popular in Findhorn - see this image: www.findhorn.org/ecovillage/archives/photos/image26.html however as for details guidance etc - haven't see anything anywhere. I do know there was a guy offering detailed plans for cutting beams and housings there but he didn't ever reply to my correspondence and I no longer have the address I used.


How did you start out with the roof structure?

I had an engineer draw a suitable structure and plunged in. We elected to go for sloped bearing surfaces so that the beams could be slid along their main axis during installation for 'fine adjustments'. They are laminated Australian hardwoods - F27 (if that means anything in Texas) and are as hard a timber as I have ever come across - including teak. This meant that each member was quite capable of sliding 'out', and there was precious little friction at the bearing surface.

The beams sat is space, locked together, without any fixings for 3 days! Its was real joy to see them do that.


Was this reciprocal force rafter structure over the whole house or just the central room?

A: Just over the central room (6m ~20' wall to wall)


How does the roof actually work?

The roof is a different head-space to conventional rafters which are supported top and bottom, the beams are only supported at the bottom and rely on the 'interweaving' to secure the top. The harder gravity works the stronger the roof becomes. The roof works with gravity rather than resisting it which is what passes for 'conventional wisdom'.


Why did you choose an octagon shape?

The octagonal shape is, to me, the strongest for a dwelling, or any structure really, circular is too difficult to furnish and accommodate and rectangular is - well look at what passes for civilization in the west (IMHO).

I suppose what I regard as sacred mathematics may have contributed - 2 raised to the power of 3 - but, in truth, I feel the design was largely 'channelled'.

I drew it one night as a design for a home in which to run residential workshops called MindVision, 9 years later and countless 'redesign' attempts we started building, the original design was the same as I drew that first night. It had successfully resisted all my attempts to 'improve it'.

Its hard to argue with facts like that (-;

And yes - the roof is remarkably similar with the octagonal opening in the centre - I was averse to a large and weighty metal structure overhead - 'The Sword of Damocles' kept runing through my mind - a photo of Findhorn's Meditation hall provided the perfect solution for us.


Could you tell me the dimentions of the roof you built: diameter, center opening diameter, beam depth, pitch, and anything else you think i might want to know?

Roof Diam - 6m, centre opening 1.5m, roof pitch 25degrees, beam depth 225mm (Sorry I guess you'll have to do the conversion to imperial).

My best and only advice really is to get some 1/4" X 3/4" sticks and build a model, you will learn far more with that than by any thing I could tell you. You'll need to cut some housings to make bearing surfaces, glue some sandpaper on one of the faces to imnprove the friction and it should be strong enough for you to stand on without slipping.


How did you design the hole in the middle?

The centre opening size is determined by 2 factors: the depth of the beams and the pitch of the roof.

If you keep the same beam size then as the pitch increases the diameter of the opening reduces. If you keep the same pitch then as the beam depth increases the diameter of the opening increases.

I don't know a formula I just nutted it out with trigonometry by working out the dimensions of the portion of the beam at the top end which went from under one neighbour to over the other.

Sorry that's so garbled but I'm not a builder and don't really know the names for these things.

Anyway I hope that helps somewhat, hope you have a lot of fun with the process as it's a real buzz when the beams stand there without support.


Why did you choose this roof design?

I first saw the roof structure in a photo of the meditation hall at Findhorn. I fell immediately in love with it as it had the 2 qualities I wanted: 1 - a central light-admitting opening 2 - freedom from supporting poles, pillars or massive metal constructions

It also offered these advantages:- - plenty of visual movement - its a challenge to keep one's focus fixed on one spot from inside - the gaze and awareness is constantly drawn inward and upward - an agreeable direction for me. - freedom from lateral thrust at the supporting rim - the walls needed no buttressing or lateral supports (although with the octagonal plan this may be a moot point). Once the rafters lock together, the structure is a unified thing and any load anywhere is immediately distributed evenly throughout the main beams and the resulting force is uniformly vertical on the supports. (Ours sits on the top of 5"X2" vertical members which have precious little bracing) - low wind resistance(?) - since the roof is not flat - it has a stepped surface (excuse my ignorance of the proper building terms - as I say, the things we do for bliss (-;) - the wind can't get a purchase on it and I think it is more resistant to uplift than a planar roof of the same surface area. (Although I have nothing other than my own 'hunch' to go on there).

The structure is popular in Findhorn - see this image: http://www.findhorn.org/ecovillage/archives/photos/image26.html however as for details guidance etc - haven't see anything anywhere. I do know there was a guy offering detailed plans for cutting beams and housings there but he didn't ever reply to my correspondence and I no longer have the address I used.

I had an engineer draw a suitable structure and plunged in. We elected to go for sloped bearing surfaces so that the beams could be slid along their main axis during installation for 'fine adjustments'. They are laminated Australian hardwoods - F27 (if that means anything in Texas) and are as hard a timber as I have ever come across - including teak. This meant that each member was quite capable of sliding 'out', and there was precious little friction at the bearing surface.

The beams sat is space, locked together, without any fixings for 3 days! Its was real joy to see them do that.


Is this roof different to a conventional rafter and purlin construction?

yes the roof is a different head-space to conventional rafters which are supporeted top and bottom, the beams are only supported at the bottom and rely on the 'interweaving' to secure the top. The harder gravity works the stronger the roof becomes. The roof works with gravity rather than resisting it which is what passes for 'conventional wisdom'.


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